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Welcome to featured list candidates! Here, we determine which lists are of a good enough quality to be featured lists (FLs). Featured lists exemplify Wikipedia's very best work and must satisfy the featured list criteria.

Before nominating a list, nominators may wish to receive feedback by listing it at peer review. This process is not a substitute for peer review. Nominators must be sufficiently familiar with the subject matter and sources to deal with objections during the featured list candidate (FLC) process. Those who are not significant contributors to the list should consult regular editors of the list before nomination. Nominators are expected to respond positively to constructive criticism and to make an effort to address objections promptly.

A list should not be listed at featured list candidates and another review process at the same time. Nominators should not add a second featured list nomination until the first has gained substantial support and reviewers' concerns have been substantially addressed.

The featured list director, Giants2008, or his delegates, PresN and Hey man im josh, determine the timing of the process for each nomination. Each nomination will typically last at least twenty days, but may last longer if changes are ongoing or insufficient discussion or analysis has occurred. For a nomination to be promoted to FL status, consensus must be reached that it meets the criteria. The directors determine whether there is consensus. A nomination will be removed from the list and archived if, in the judgment of the director who considers a nomination and its reviews:

  • actionable objections have not been resolved in a timely manner; or
  • consensus for promotion has not been reached after significant time; or
  • reviewers are unable to judge whether the criteria have been met.

It is assumed that all nominations have good qualities; this is why the process focuses on finding and resolving problems in relation to the criteria, rather than asserting the positives. Declarations of support are not as important as finding and resolving issues, and the process is not simply vote-counting.

Once the director or a delegate has decided to close a nomination, they will do so on the nominations page. A bot will update the list talk page after the list is promoted or the nomination archived, typically within the day, and the {{FLC}} template should remain on the talk page until the bot updates or adds the {{Article history}} template. If a nomination is archived, the nominator should take adequate time to resolve issues before re-nominating.

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  1. Before nominating a list, ensure that it meets all of the FL criteria and that any peer reviews are closed and archived. It is recommended that the list have no other open discussions.
  2. Place {{subst:FLC}} on the talk page of the nominated list.
  3. From the FLC template, click on the red "initiate the nomination" link. You will see pre-loaded information; leave that text. If you are unsure how to complete a nomination, please leave a post on the FLC talk page for assistance.
  4. Below the preloaded title, complete the nomination page, sign with ~~~~ and save the page.
  5. Finally, place {{Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/name of nominated list/archiveNumber}} at the top of the list of nominees on this page by first copying the above, clicking "edit" on the top of this page, and then pasting, making sure to add the name of the nominated list. When adding a candidate, mention the name of the list in the edit summary.
Reviewing procedure

Please read a nominated list fully before deciding to support or oppose a nomination.

  • To respond to a nomination, click the "Edit" link to the right of the list nomination (not the "Edit this page" link for the whole FLC page).
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  • To provide constructive input on a nomination without specifically supporting or objecting, write * '''Comment''' followed by your advice.
Nominations urgently needing reviews

The following lists were nominated almost 2 months ago and have had their review time extended because objections are still being addressed, the nomination has not received enough reviews, or insufficient information has been provided by reviewers to judge whether the criteria have been met. If you have not yet reviewed them, please take the time to do so:

Source reviews needed

The following lists were nominated for removal more than 14 days ago:

Nominations

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List of Billboard Adult Contemporary number ones of 1981

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Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With the 1980 list gathering support, here's the 1981 list. In this particular year there were two totally different and unrelated number ones with the same title.....sort of..... Feedback as ever will be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Steelkamp

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  • "Rabbitt's song was one of two tracks which reached the number one spot on both the AC and country charts as well as on the Hot 100 during the early part of 1981". -> "Rabbitt's song was one of two tracks which reached the number one spot on the AC, country and Hot 100 charts during the early part of 1981".
  • "The two songs were among just four country songs to top the Hot 100 during the 1980s, and the only two to do so consecutively." I'm unsure how this pertains to the Adult Contemporary chart.

Those are the only comments I have. Good work Steelkamp (talk) 08:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Steelkamp: - both points addressed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:09, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Steelkamp (talk) 08:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of generation II Pokémon

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Nominator(s): CaptainGalaxy, Pokelego999 14:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This list covers the fictional Pokémon species that have been introduced in the second generation of the Pokémon media franchise, specifically Pokémon from the video games Pokémon Gold, Silver and Crystal. Me and co-nominator Pokelego999 have gone through the list and included what information we could find about each species using high quality sources in order to create as comprehensive a list as possible with what sources exist, with a summary of the franchise, the second generation's setting included in the article's lead, and a detailed inclusion of the development and beta of the Pokémon in the second generation. We both believe this meets FL criteria due to its expansive scope of coverage and verifiability in reliable publications. CaptainGalaxy 14:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Seattle Kraken award winners

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Nominator(s): XR228 (talk) 00:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm continuing the trend of getting Seattle Kraken lists to FL. This should have everything it needs. Feel free to review. Thanks. XR228 (talk) 00:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • I accept that the article isn't very long, but four sentences seems incredibly short for a lead. Can it be expanded without essentially duplicating the whole article?
  • Is there any need for tables with literally a single row to be sortable?
  • "The NHL All-Rookie Team consists of the top rookies at each position" => "The NHL All-Rookie Team consists of the top rookie at each position"
  • "held annually between many of the top players of each season" - this seems a bit vague, I think it would be better to briefly say what the criteria for selection for the teams involved are
  • I would merge the two very short paragraphs under "retired numbers"
  • "played 15 professional seasons with Seattle Totems " => "played 15 professional seasons with the Seattle Totems "
  • That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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List of Michelin-starred restaurants in Washington, D.C.

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Nominator(s): Expandinglight5 (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because the list is well-organized, follows the style guide set by the task force and closely resembles the List of Michelin-starred restaurants in Mexico which has achieved FL status. Expandinglight5 (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's weird how little of the lead is directly about the DC list. The Mexico list has similarly little but at least has the local context as the second paragraph, but this doesn't get to the list's actual topic until the third, and there's still not a lot of summarization. What else can you tell me in the lead about these restaurants? Can you also mention that the local tourism board has to pay for the guide to be made? Reywas92Talk 05:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I formatted the article starting with the history of the guide and then moving into the specific content about Washington, D.C. which leads into the list. I've added some content about background of the dining scene in D.C. Adding content about Michelin charging the local tourism boards seems more like content belonging to the Michelin Guide page rather than the specific list for the region. Thoughts?
Expandinglight5 (talk) 20:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An article should include background, but you shouldn't have to get to the third paragraph before the present article is introduced. Presumably anyone who gets to this article already knows what the Michelin guide is. It should really start with at least saying there are 26 current starred restaurants, then get into the background – one reason besides just getting to the point is that the preview ought to show page-specific information, not the generic content that may be duplicate across the set. Apparently the tourism board wasn't involved here like in other cities, but [1] still has good DC-specific info that could absolutely be in the article – anything relevant to this particular guide and its listings can be included.
I think the statistics with the exact populations and income levels aren't necessary though – that's conceptual background with unnecessary specificity rather than about DC's starred restaurants. You added nothing that further introduces this list's content. But I also see that you literally just copied and pasted this paragraph from the souce, which in turn quoted from the DC Policy Center, albeit with quotation marks. That's a copyright violation and honestly embarrassing. Reywas92Talk 21:18, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The tourism boards come into play as Michelin expands into smaller markets, typically ones that historically were not large enough to support printed publication. It isn't clear if the tourism board for Washington, D.C. is involved today in keeping the reviews continuing to exist given the fact North American regions are no longer in publication.
The content regarding populations and incomes aren't a direct copy and paste and minor revisions were made from the original content. I will edit it further if there is concern over copyright violation.
Thank you for the feedback on background and suggested order. I'll make subsequent edits.
Expandinglight5 (talk) 21:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed the minor changes but that's far from good enough (this is much closer to a direct copy than even a WP:Close paraphrase) and I hope not representative of your edits elsewhere. But those stats aren't needed at all, even if reworded. I'd hope the lead can get into some extra facts about the restaurants themselves, one example could be noting that Aaron Silverman is the chef for three of them. Reywas92Talk 21:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good ideas. I appreciate the feedback on all topics.
Expandinglight5 (talk) 21:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Prose and image review:
  • Well, the image caption is incorrect; it's not Washington, D.C.-based as the lede states.
  • Since the list is sortable, you should link all the mentions of each cuisine, not just its first mention by default. (It also might be useful to explain what "contemporary cuisine" means, potentially as a footnote as its def. less self-explanatory than the rest)
  • Image is correctly licensed and appropriate
  • Agree with what Reywas said above; also perhaps a sentence or two of independent information about the D.C. cuisine scene overall could be nice.
That's all from me! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the feedback. I've addressed the caption on the image as well as the cuisine links. I'll add additional content regarding Michelin as well as the dining scene Expandinglight5 (talk) 19:04, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • Don't think the article should start with a one-sentence "paragraph". Merge it with the one after.
  • "based on its evaluation methodology: One star means" - no reason for capital mid-sentence
  • Third "paragraph" is also just one sentence. Merge it with the one after.
  • No need to link Washington D.C. twice in two sentences near the end of the lead.
  • No need to link List of Michelin-starred restaurants in Chicago ⋅twice in consecutive sentences
  • "Michelin awarded stars to The Inn at Little Washington, which is in Virginia." - the fact that this is the only restaurant in the guide ever awarded three stars surely merits mention in the lead -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. I've revised for bullets 2-5. I'll work on incorporating changes for the first and final bullet this week.
    Expandinglight5 (talk) 18:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I made a couple of changes myself and am now happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:42, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Vegas Golden Knights seasons

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Nominator(s): The Kip (contribs) 08:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing in the project laid out at WP:VGK, here's another FL candidate. Tables already seemed adequate, though at the direction of PresN from some months ago I added the ongoing 2024–25 season for length reasons; otherwise, I expanded the lead based off other NHL season FLs, and added graphics. The Kip (contribs) 08:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brief comment by myself to potential reviewers - I will be without access to a laptop/desktop from December 29 to January 1, so I will be limited in what updates I can make to the article during that time. The Kip (contribs) 06:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by ChrisTheDude

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Comments by Kline

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  • six times in their first seven completed seasons, First is unnecessary as they haven't finished any other seasons (or seven of them for that matter).
  • the Golden Knights instead suffered a rash of injuries and poor play, eventually missing the playoffs for the first time in franchise history. Is "instead" necessary?
  • first-round exit against the San Jose Sharks the following season, Something about the link going to the Stanley Cup playoffs from "the following season" seems misleading, perhaps a rewording is required.
  • Recommend changing the "Season" header to "NHL season".
  • Notes 1 and 2 in the year-by-year section can probably be converted into actual notes, considering there's already 3 notes in that table.

That's all I got. Kline • talk • contribs 18:23, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kline Fixed everything but the "instead" bit - I figured that's necessary as a contrast to the fact they entered the season as Cup favorites. The Kip (contribs) 20:51, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nevermind, I now see how I've already set up the contrast with "Despite." The Kip (contribs) 20:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good work, support. Kline • talk • contribs 21:18, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1991–92 snooker world rankings

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Nominator(s): BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another in the series. Unfortunately the sources for this one lack the full detail that was published for previous years, and in fact they contain some errors (which I've kept in, fearing that I would otherwise be accused of original research). As Stephen Hendry won half of the 18 tournaments that contributed to the rankings, no surprise that he had a substantial lead over everyone else. As ever, all improvement suggestions are welcome. I can provide the relevant extracts from offline sources to reviewers on request. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support by LeeV

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  • Alex Higgins had 25 ranking points deducted from his 1989–90 total and was banned for the 1990–91 by the WPBSA following a disciplinary inquiry and fell from 97th to 120th - whilst this is true, it doesn't quite explain that he had ALL of his points removed and then was given no way to get any more. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 23:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • These have been at the bottom in all lists going back to the 1976–77 one; during that review, ChrisTheDude commented that "I've never seen an article where a "preceded by/succeeded by" template was placed centrally at the top, it looks odd to me. I would put it at the bottom as is by far the norm." this is the first time I've has the question about whether both are needed, I'll see what other reviewers think. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • " The 1983–84 snooker world rankings were the first to take tournaments other than world championship" => " The 1983–84 snooker world rankings were the first to take tournaments other than the world championship"
  • Inconsistent capitalisation in "Losing semi-finalist" / "Losing Quarter-finalist". I would say that the former is correct.
  • Same goes for "Last 16 Loser" / "Final qualifying round loser" although in this case I would say the latter is correct.
  • That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of Green Bay Packers players

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Nominator(s): « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two years ago, I decided to set a challenging goal for myself: make every list under WP:PACKERS a featured list. Well ladies and gentlemen, here we are. With the expected passing of Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Green Bay Packers all-time roster/archive2, all that is left to reach this goal is Lists of Green Bay Packers players. The passing of this list will also achieve a secondary goal: finishing a Green Bay Packers players Featured Topic! This list of lists provides the summary lead list for the larger topic. Now this list is not tabular in form, but still meets all the requirements for a standalone list and for the featured list criteria. As always, I am happy to address any comments quickly. Thank you for taking the time to review and making it possible for me to achieve this goal! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Staraction

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  • "Additionally, Packers' players have been recognized nationally for their performance..." -> "Additionally, Packers players have been recognized nationally for their performance..."
  • Should there be periods after the description for each list? I don't think they're sentences - but I'll defer to your judgement!
    • I honestly don't know. They look right to me, but I don't feel strongly either way. If other reviewers feel like they shouldn't be there, happy to remove them. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is "a list of" necessary in the descriptions? Again, I'll defer to your judgement - I just think it might be a little redundant given many of the lists already have "List of" in the article title. Reminds me a bit of WP:THISISALIST.
    • Yeah, I worried about that. Again, happy to defer to other reviewers opinions. The only other way I could see to write it is to list the exact number of players, which would require a lot of updating. This was my way of trying to make a somewhat static list that doesn't need updating, since this is a general, high-level overview LoL. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Images: passed!

  • Perhaps swap the Lambeau Field & 1919 team images? Lambeau Field is mentioned in the lede but not later (lest I'm missing something). Otherwise, all images are relevant to the article.
  • All images have alt text and are captioned appropriately.
  • All images licensed properly.

That's it from me; support after minor comments above are resolved. (Expected) congratulations on achieving your goal, and well done @User:Gonzo fan2007! Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Staraction! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1992 Summer Olympics medal table

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Nominator(s): Hey man im josh (talk) 21:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is my sixth Olympics medal table and I'm happy to be back at it again. I believe it's all encompassing, reflects the relevant information, and meets all of our criteria. As always, if there are any issues I'll be do my best to respond quickly and address all criticisms brought forth. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • "were included as official medal events for the first time ever" => "were included as official medal events for the first time"
  • "Also former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia" => "Two other former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia"
  • "Athletes representing 64 NOCs received at least one medal, with 37 of them winning" - 37 athletes?
  • "Meanwhile, Croatia,[21] Israel,[22] Malaysia,[23] Namibia,[24] Qatar,[25] and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals" - I think you can lose "meanwhile"
  • That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "were included as official medal events for the first time ever" -> "were included as official medal events for the first time" – Good catch, done.
  • "Also former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia" -> "Two other former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia" – Yes, definitely better, done.
  • "Athletes representing 64 NOCs received at least one medal, with 37 of them winning" - 37 athletes? – It's meant to represent that the NOCs received at least one gold medal. Well this is doing my brain in a bit... I've used this wording on several FLs now, but I can definitely see it both ways now. Agh, do you have any suggestions?
@ChrisTheDude: Done. I'll make the changes to my other FLs as well. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Meanwhile, Croatia,[21] Israel,[22] Malaysia,[23] Namibia,[24] Qatar,[25] and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals" - I think you can lose "meanwhile" – Done.
Thanks as always for the helpful review and tweaks ChrisTheDude!

1988 Summer Olympics medal table

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Nominator(s): Arconning (talk) 14:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another medal list for the Olympics nerd^ Feel free to leave comments and I'll reply to them as soon as I can! Arconning (talk) 14:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

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Other combat sports, which include judo and wrestling, use a repechage system which also results in two bronze medals being awarded. – Check out the results for wrestling, they did have bronze medal matches. Also check out this source which mentions that repechage was introduced for the 2008 games.

I also don't believe your official changes by country is correct currently. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:39, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hey man im josh I believe I'm done, let me know if I have any mistakes.  :) Arconning (talk) 16:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hey man im josh Pinging again. ^ Arconning (talk) 02:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arconning: I expect I'll do a full review when the WikiCup is under way. For the time being though, I felt like pointing out what was immediately obvious to me. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments (ec)

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  • Infobox image caption is a complete sentence so it needs a full stop
  • "while tennis was reintroduced since its removal" => "while tennis was reintroduced following its removal"
  • "athletes representing 52 NOCs received at least one medal, and 31 of them" - 31 athletes?
  • "and 31 of them one at least one gold medal" - won, not one
  • "Suriname's team won their first Olympic gold medal, which is also their first Olympic medal of any color" => "Suriname's team won their first Olympic gold medal, which was also their first Olympic medal of any color"
  • "the gold medal being awarded to Joachim Kunz of East Germany, Israel Militosyan of the Soviet Union, and Li Jinhe of China" - the gold medal was awarded to all three of them.....?
  • "After Grablev and Genchev were stripped from their titles" => "After Grablev and Genchev were stripped of their titles"
  • "He was subsequently disqualified" => "Johnson was subsequently disqualified" (the last person named was Park)
  • What is with the "List of official changes by country" table that just contains Sweden and France? I don't understand this at all..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:41, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChrisTheDude Fixed everything hopefully, sorry for the errors! Arconning (talk) 16:04, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments

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  • "Events in boxing result in a bronze medal being awarded to each of the two competitors" => "Events in boxing resulted in a bronze medal being awarded to each of the two competitors" (in case they ever change this, which would make the present tense inappropriate)
  • "Events in judo use a repechage system which also results => "Events in judo used a repechage system which also resulted" (same reason as above)
  • "Three gold medals and no silver nor bronze were awarded" => "Three gold medals and no silver or bronze medals were awarded"
  • "Two gold and no silver medal was awarded " => "Two gold medals and no silver were awarded "
  • "both resulted with two bronzes awarded each due to a third-place tie" => "both resulted in two bronzes being awarded due to third-place ties" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChrisTheDude Done! Arconning (talk) 01:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of kerivoulines

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Nominator(s): PresN 21:53, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bats list #8 and mammal list #49: Kerivoulinae. The smallest of the four lists for Vespertilionidae, these 30 species will finally finish off that mega-family. We again have a bunch of tiny little bats; this time one of them is bright orange (the appropriately-named painted bat), and that cluster in the image for Hardwicke's woolly bat are actually tucked up in a shoot of bamboo. As always, this list reflects formatting discussions from prior lists as well as the scientific consensus on the family. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 21:53, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • How weird is this, my wife sent me an Instagram video of K. picta and said "I bet this one will show up at some point on that Wikipedia list thing of yours" (sic) yesterday evening, literally an hour or so before you nominated this. I'll give it a review shortly -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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Generalissima comments

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  • "Least woolly bat" shouldn't be capitalized in the lede
  • File:KerivoulaFord.jpg needs a US PD tag
  • All other images appear correctly licensed.

@PresN: that's all from me! Great alt-text on the lede bat by the way, I dunno why but it made me chuckle Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Endemic flora of the Chatham Islands

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Nominator(s): Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Still New Zealand, but a bit of a diversion from my usual fare! The Chatham Islands are an isolated little archipelago with quite the unique set of flora and fauna, many of which are endemic to the islands and found nowhere else on Earth. From what I can tell, this is the first list of endemic flora to run here — I had to ask PresN to create the table template used here. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment – I've since added images for Macromitrium longirostre var. ramsayae, Sarcodia linearis, Gigartina grandifida , Lessonia tholiformis, Landsburgia myricifolia, and Pyrophyllon cameronii. Ceramium chathamense seems to be fairly rare, and the only images I could find for it are from the Te Papa Museum, which licenses them under 'All Rights Reserved'. Thus, unless 1) somebody is able to contact the museum and somehow convince them to release it under their usual CC BY 4.0, or 2) someone else physically goes to the small fishing village of Kaiangaroa where it lives, it's not feasible to have an image at this time. Between this and the list itself suitably using an overhead map of the Chatham Islands as a visual aid for the rest of the list, I think this easily meets criterion 5(b). TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 21:20, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – What I'm unconvinced of is that this meets 5(a) or 5(c). For 5(a), every subject in this article is by convention considered inherently notable by nature of being an attested taxon (being generous, we'll leave out subspecies and varieties). Thus, "a minimal proportion of items are redlinked" should at most include a few of the items (if any), but I count 30 (a majority) which are redlinked, including a lot of species, and that's quite a lot of work to overcome that issue. Regarding 5(c), the alt text for the top image is fine, but the alt text for all of the images in the tables is just the singular word "plants". This provides functionally no information to a reader who can't view the image. This is similarly a lot of work, but it's necessary. I haven't examined the other criteria yet. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 21:20, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    From what I understand, that's as minimum a proportion as reasonable is redlinked; since species are notable by default, there's really no way around that (until those get created, but then it wouldn't be a matter of this article anymore). I think PresN would be the person to ask here, as they've had to finagle with redlink-prone species lists before.
    As for the alt-text, oops, I forgot to change it from the default. I'll go fix that. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 22:09, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    5(a) is pretty subjective, and in practice seems to be treated as "don't link a ton of non-notable items because it's ugly". I've only seen it brought up in the last few years for lists of only redlinked items. In this case, I don't think it's aesthetically offensive or inappropriate to redlink the plants that haven't been stubbed yet, so I'm fine with this list from a 5(a) perspective. --PresN 14:15, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't really have strong opinions on 5(a) (I don't think the alternating red and blue is bad from an aesthetic perspective as long as it's not for the sake of possibly non-notable clutter), and I'm less familiar with FLC, so I think I'm going to take a look at other criteria and re-evaluate 5(c) once the nom is done with that aspect. Appreciated. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 16:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – Regarding criterion 4, I'm wondering about the possibility of sorting this list. The first column for the name is already pre-sorted alphabetically (I don't think somehow being able to sort by the nickname or locale would be useful, and sorting by the description year wouldn't be worth putting the authority in its own column), but two things I find I would like to sort by are the family (to cluster them together to better understand where things fit together taxonomically) and the NZTCS assessment (thus, for instance, I could look at all of the ones that are 'Declining' as a cluster). Thus, I'm not sure that 4 is met if there's no way to sort the table. PresN, do you know if something like that is easily implemented? TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 16:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TheTechnician27: Not making a statement on if it should be sortable or not, but I added a "sortable=yes" option to the table template. --PresN 21:53, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In that case, that was my only objection to criterion 4, and I think it now unambiguously passes. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 22:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • 6 – I think this is easily met (list just created, and there hasn't been any edit warring etc.).
  • 5(c) – Met except for alt text, which the nom has stated they intend to take care of (and must before the nom can succeed).
  • 5(b) – Met as well as we can (see above).
  • 5(a) – Seems ambiguous but fine subject to the above interpretation.
  • 4 – Met.
  • 3(c) – Seems met: (i) enough sources talk about the Chatham Islands' endemic flora for notability, (ii) this is close to but not a direct fork of flora of the Chatham Islands by nature of being only endemic flora, (iii) it has more than enough items, and (iv) a list this large can't reasonably be included in a related article.
  • 3(b) – I'll have to check for accurate sourcing and no close paraphrasing, but at a glance, all statements are at least sourced (the last sentence of the lead technically isn't, but the sourcing is in the table directly below it).
  • 3(a) – This one concerns me at present, not for its status right now but for its maintainability. The Department of Conservation says there are 47 endemics, we list 47 taxa, and a spot check of these shows that they're endemic. Thus, this seems correct right now, but I'm curious how this can easily be audited; is there an external list of all the endemic taxa? If not, then it seems like the process for auditing this article is 1) checking the number the Department of Conservation gives, 2) counting our list to make sure there's numerical parity, and then 3) checking each species' individual source to make sure it's endemic. That doesn't seem sustainable unless there's an outside list.
  • 2 – I think the species names in the lead should use common names (with scientific in parens) as much as possible, as five "bare" scientific names in quick succession will smack an average reader like a truck. It might also be worthwhile for the lead to briefly mention nonvascular plants since those have their own table, but only if it can be done organically. Lastly for now (this is just at a glance), the third sentence of the lead talks about divisions (I believe the DoC calls these "affinities") based on their relationships to mainland New Zealand, but this is never followed up on (I don't think it necessarily has to be, but putting it as the third sentence heavily emphasizes it).
  • 1 – Seems met: the lead is well-written from a technical perspective, and I see nothing wrong technically with the entries in the tables either. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 01:25, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – Lecanora kohu is not a member of the flora (it is funga) and as such shouldn't be on a listing of endemic flora.
  • there are several unlinked authorities that have articles (de Lange, Heenan, Vitt, Agardh, W.A.Nelson) Esculenta (talk) 15:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Esculenta: I'm obviously inclined to trust your expertise here, but it seems very inconsistent whether sources include lichens under "flora" or not. On-wiki for example, Flora of Scotland (GA), Flora of Madagascar (FA), mention lichens. On Google Scholar, the phrase "Lichen flora" has nearly 20,000 hits.
    Great catch re: the authorities though. Got to those. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Municipalities of Tlaxcala

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Nominator(s): Mattximus (talk) 00:06, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominated more list of Mexican State municipalities, almost done! It has a standardized format that now includes 52 (!!) lists of municipalities all around the world. Inspired by these real encyclopedias with consistent formatting and high standard, the project is taking shape. I tried to incorporate changes from previous nominations, including the recently passed Morelos but I'm sure I've missed some and there can always be improvements. Thanks for your reviews! Mattximus (talk) 00:06, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • "16 new municipalities were created in 1995" => "In 1995, 16 new municipalities were created" would avoid starting a sentence with a number in digit form, which probably isn't technically invalid but always looks a bit wrong to me......
  • You are absolutely correct, not sure why I didn't notice that before nomination.

United States presidential elections in Oklahoma

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Nominator(s): Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 08:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fresh off a recent copy edit I feel I have addressed the issues that sunk the first nomination and hope to get it passed on the second go around. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 08:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kavyansh

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  • From my previous FLC comments: "Since it first joined the United States in 1907," : How many times has Oklahoma joined the United States?
  • Link all the names in the table, even on multiple occourances.

Looking much better! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 11:28, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 19:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 05:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • Is there an appropriate link for "electoral votes" for non-US people who don't necessarily know how the system over there works?
  • "The state's electoral votes were reduced to eight votes" => "The state's electoral votes were reduced to eight"
  • "Oklahoma initially vacillated between" - can you find a different verb than "vacillated"? It conveys a sense of every resident standing in front of the ballot box quivering and saying "I just can't decide who to vote for" :-)
  • "Oklahoma was last considered a swing state during the presidential campaigns of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton." - and when was that?
  • That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:40, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChrisTheDude: I addressed all your comments, though in regard to the last one I linked to the election and not the specific campaign. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 19:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Staraction

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  • "Republicans having won every single Oklahoma county since the 2004 presidential election" -> "Republicans have won every county in Oklahoma since the 2004 presidential election" Done
  • "Democrats have won without the state eight times, the most recent in Joe Biden's election in 2020" -> "Democrats have won without the state eight times, most recently in Joe Biden's victory in 2020" Done
  • Perhaps include Henry D. Irwin, mentioned in the lede, in footnote b? Done
  • "The state later passed a law..." -> would it be possible to find out when? That seems like the type of tidbit that would make the news, with a date attached; the source cited even mentions it was 1961. The source also mentions a constitutional amendment - perhaps elaborate on that? Done
  • Is there a reason why, under 1920, Eugene Debs' vote percentage is rounded 5.29% from source to 5.3% in the article? fixed
  • Dewey did not win nationally in 1948 (later edit, got a little joy out of remembering Dewey Defeats Truman here) Done
  • Maybe change "William H. Taft" and "William Taft" -> "William Howard Taft", per WP:COMMONNAME? This is up to you though, since it isn't an article title. Done
  • Source 38: "Ok Elections" -> "OK Election Results" Done
  • Sources 38 and 39 are not consistent despite being from the same source; additionally please archive source 39
  • Please archive sources 1, 2, 12, 13, etc. (probably just use IABot) Done

Thanks for your work, @User:OlifanofmrTennant; please ping me after you review these suggestions, and let me know if you disagree with any of them! Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:02, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Staraction: done. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 09:47, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "An amendment to the Constitution of Oklahoma had been passed earlier in the year..." -> what did the amendment do?
  • "Republicans have won every single county in Oklahom\
since the 2004 presidential election." -> I've just gone ahead and fixed this
  • Ref 2 has cite error (archive date mismatch)
Thanks for your work, @OlifanofmrTennant; please ping me after you review these suggestions, and let me know if you disagree with any of them! Staraction (talk | contribs) 15:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Staraction: done :D Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One last thing, @OlifanofmrTennant - per MOS:NOW, what are your thoughts on changing the sentence, "Oklahoma initially fluctuated between voting Democrat and Republican, but it has recently come to be considered a safely red state" (emphasis mine)? Staraction (talk | contribs) 22:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would be up to it. What do you propose? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 23:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, scratch what I said before - you do well in explaining, for example, that Johnson was the last Democrat to win the state; I think I'd just remove "recently". So instead, "Oklahoma initially fluctuated between voting Democrat and Republican,[perhaps a citation here? up to you] but it has come to be considered a safely red state". Gets rid of the problem with defining when "recently" is. But ultimately, this is up to you and a lot less solid than my previous suggestions. Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Billboard Adult Contemporary number ones of 1980

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Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's #20 in this series for your consideration. Fans of Family Guy may be interested to see Chuck Mangione listed here (apparently - I have never seen said show so don't really know what the gag is but somebody mentioned it to me........). Feedback as ever will be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support by Generalissima

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Images are correctly licensed and have provided alt-text (not a requirement but always nice to see. Prose is quality as usual, no complaints there; and the table is correctly formatted. Support. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support from HAL

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Source review (pass)

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The sources are reliable and high-quality, particularly for a list about music. The citation structure is consistent and well-done. I have done a spot check, and for the most part, everything from the source matches the citation and what is being cited in the list. I did run across one small issue. The Hollywood Foreign Press Association source (here) no longer supports the cited information as the website has not updated to only show the most recent win. It may change again in the future to show all of the wins and nominations, but it is likely best to just use the archived version (here) as it will stay more consistent. Otherwise, great work as always, and once the small point with the one citation is corrected, I will pass this source review. Best of luck with this FLC! Aoba47 (talk) 00:21, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: - I went for a totally different source in the end -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense as it is better to use a source specific to the song and its win. Thank you for addressing this point. If possible, I would appreciate any feedback for my current FAC, but I completely understand if you do not have the time or interest. Great work as always! Aoba47 (talk) 15:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of mosques in Hyderabad

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Nominator(s): AmateurHi$torian (talk) 10:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I have tried to bring it up to standards based on the List of stupas in Nepal article, which is already an FL. AmateurHi$torian (talk) 10:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

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Note that your images need alt text added for accessibility. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • To what extent is this comprehensive and is there selection criteria beyond having an article? It's fair that this is just the notable mosques since all of them here (but the new one) appear historic, but I'm wondering what we may be missing and not many dynamic/incomplete lists get featured.
  • I'm thinking this should be nominally expanded to cover all of Telangana even if there aren't others with articles: List of mosques in Jammu and Kashmir and List of mosques in Kerala both have a region-wide scope.
  • List of mosques in India and the former of those have a notes/remarks column. As it stands, this list is a very simple table, so without descriptions of the mosques or explanations of significance, I don't think this should be featured.
  • Heck, you're comparing this page to the Nepal list, but that one also has coordinates that this lacks.
  • And while that national list isn't very high-quality, it doesn't even seem so long that subarticles like this are needed. This definitely needs a lot more information to justify a split, otherwise it fails 3c. Reywas92Talk 17:06, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Adding coordinates and alt text. I'm in favor of expanding the scope to Telangana. The national list is missing a lot of mosques, so I don't know if splitting is justified or not. After how many entries would a list like that generally be split?AmateurHi$torian (talk) 09:42, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Only mosques having a Wikipedia article have been included.--AmateurHi$torian (talk) 06:25, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AmateurHi$torian a list cannot be comprehensive by only including a select few. Also, please take a look at WP:BOLDLINKAVOID. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

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List of historic places in Carterton District

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Nominator(s): Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another New Zealand historic place list. Carterton is a sleepy little farming town, and many of these historic sites are certainly part and parcel from that background. Nevertheless, I hope you find this close up look at rural New Zealand life interesting. Thank you very much as always for your reviews! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dylan620

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Gotta say I haven't seen the word plinth before. I wiki-googled it and it seems to be synonymous with pedestal, which is a more common word if I'm not mistaken - maybe replace it with that instead, or else wikilink plinth?

Other than that, the prose looks great. I also took a look at the images, and found no issues:

  • All images have adequate alt texts.
  • All images contribute encyclopedic value to the list.
  • All images are appropriately licensed for either public domain or Creative Commons.
  • Where applicable (i.e. not the uploader's own work), the source URLs of all images verify where they came from.

Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 23:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dylan620: Thank you! I wikilinked plinth. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Generalissima: No prob! Happy to support. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 23:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Traumnovelle

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  • 'ties to the Ngāti Māhu hapū of the Ngāti Kahungunu.' should say tribe or iwi after Ngati Kahungunu.
    • Added. - G
  • urupa should have a lang tag.
    • Added. - G
  • The reference for Wakelin's flour mill is contemporary with the proposed demolition and does not support the fact the building was saved (but can be easily verified e.g. [2]) unless I missed something in the Heritage NZ report the report does not seem to have been written at a time when demolition was confirmed to not be going ahead 'The NZHPT was contacted, and negotiations with the owners to retain the building are underway.'
    • There's a bit under the Physical Description section under the Detailed List Entry at the bottom, but you're right that source is good to use here.
  • This one is personal preference but I think the Carter Home should say men's retirement home, as it was established as such and for most of it's lifetime was exclusive to men.
    • Good idea. - G
  • Sayer's Slab Whare should probably say remained and not resided, as he did not choose to live in the area because of his friendship but instead his friendship caused him to remain when his father left the area.
    • Good fix. - G
  • A description for the Mayfield Station would be nice although there does seem to be a dearth of digital sources. If you locate anything physical available in Auckland I might be able to take a look at it.
    • I dug quite a bit for that, and just could not find anything, not even things I could ask a friend in NZ to get. Usually when something on HNZ is that loosely covered, its due to some sort of privacy concern. - G


  • The Glendower Woolshed should say circa 19th century as the Heritage report states: 'it was most likely built in the nineteenth century'
    • Good fix. - G
  • A homestead originally built by John Milsome Jury in 1864. should say circa 1864 per the report. Should also say 1935 instead of 1934, presume that is just a typo.
    • Fixed! -G
  • Support one more minor thing: the heritage nz website you cite contains digitised reports which is what most information is obtained from. These are given a date and author which are good to include for attribution and letting the reader know how up to date the information is. I was going to add them myself but I came across partial names (J. Doe) and wasn't sure on citation styles which are important in a FA class article. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Crisco (and image review)

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  • Pā and Hapū are not italicized, while urupā is. Has the last not been incorporated into NZ English?
    • Neither pā or hapū are generally italicized in any of the sources I've seen - but to be honest, neither is urupā, although it is far rarer. I'm not totally sure what to do, but I defaulted to italicizing. - G
  • A World War I memorial - Does New Zealand prefer World War I or the First World War (as it would be in BrE)? Same for World War II and Second World War
    • Follows BrE generally - good catch, fixed. - G
  • Shares the site with Mayfield Station Stables (#7163) and Mayfield Station Woolshed (#1291). - Not a full sentence, so no full stop
    • Fixed. - G
  • Shares the site with Mayfield Station Shed (#7164) and Mayfield Station Woolshed (#1291). - Not a full sentence, so no full stop
    • Fixed. - G
  • Shares the site with Mayfield Station Shed (#7164) and Mayfield Station Stables (#7163). - Not a full sentence, so no full stop
    • Fixed. - G
  • The stables of a sheep run established sometime before the 1860s. - Not a full sentence (established ... modifies sheep run) so no full stop.
    • Fixed. - G
  • A couple more sentence fragments precede full sentences. Not sure how you want to deal with those. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:23, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Essentially italics aren't used by the style guides in NZ for Maori words regardless of if they have any widespread use in English or not. [3] [4] [5]
    So really to italicise or not should fall back on MOS:ITALICS. Both terms are included in the OED: [6] [7] and pa can be written as pah so should be considered loan words. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Crisco 1492: Responded - ty very much! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:45, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leader of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia

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Nominator(s): --TheUzbek (talk) 08:25, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is my comeback nomination and, hopefully, my last comeback as well :) I did most of the work but also got invaluable help and insights from @Vipz:. As for why I did not nominate the article earlier, I could never find the membership year of Miroslav Ivanović, the last leader. But as far as I am concerned, that information is lost to history. I've tried to track it down, but I've been at a loss. As for the quality of the article itself and its worthiness for FL, I will note that it is obvious. It both covers a very important historical topic and covers the topic as well as it can do with the sources at hand. --TheUzbek (talk) 08:25, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Generalissima

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  • Done Shouldn't events before it was renamed to LCY call the party by its period name?
    • Sure, but what specifically are you referring about? One has the "Institutional history of the highest-standing office of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia" table as well as the headers "Political secretaries of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia" and "Organisational secretaries of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia" for the period up to 1937 and "|Leaders of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia" for the period up to 1991. Or am I missing something you are seeing and not me? :)
  • Done Rather than focusing on the names used for the position overtime, I think it'd be better to focus on the evolution of the position's power (and esp. give context for Tito's rule and rise to greater power!)
    • Classical communist institutions are rather vague when it comes to specific powers. For example, the general secretary of the Soviet communist party was not mentioned in the party charter until 1966. The same could be said of earlier stipulations in the Yugoslav party. It is only with the 1966 reforms that the LCY tried to develop a set of institutions different from its Soviet counterparts based on rules. THat is why the article has more information on the post 1966 years than the years before.
  • Done Tito needs to be wikilinked at his first mention in the body.
    • Done
  • Done Since you wikilink Tito's death in the lede, you should also link it in the body.
    • Done
  • Done Austria, Bulgaria, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Slovenia, Switzerland and the Soviet Union do we need this big list of country names? We can just say "various other countries" or something.
    • Done, shortened it to "Soviet counterpart" as that was the most important one.
  • Partially done The LCY's article says it wasn't renamed to the Communist Party of Yugoslavia until the 2nd congress; that might not warrant a separate entry on the tables, but maybe a footnote could be helpful.
    • I have added in the text that the party was renamed at the 2nd and 6th congresses.
  • Done Tito's position as leader factored into his command of the resistance during World War II, right? That should be given a good mention.
    • I will try to find information on that. Formally, the partisans were under the control of the Unitary National Liberation Front and the Anti-Fascist Council for the National Liberation of Yugoslavia, two institutions the party controlled. The KPJ Central Committee also appointed him commander-in-chief of the resistance, but I don't think they did it formally speaking because he was general secretary. I will try to ascertain it.That is, of course they nominated him because he was the sitting general secretary, but I am not sure that they did that because of the institution he held or because of the immense power he held in practice. Does this make sense? Even so, I will try to use the power of Google!
  • Done The article currently doesn't state the point where the party (or the leader for that matter) actually held power in Yugoslavia. A brief mention of the NKOJ and the abolition of the monarchy in 1945 would probably be warranted.
    • Good point, will work on it!
    • Come to think of it, this should at least mention the early political situation, that its leaders led it into the 1920 elections and all
      • Maybe? It's not necessary to know about the institution of the LCY leader, but at the same time, a sentence won't hurt either.
  • responsible -> accountability seems like overlinking.
    • Done
  • Partially done It's unclear to me whether the President of the League had more power or not than the General Secretary position
    • The general secretary had more informal powers by dominating and leading the secretariat, but the secretariat was abolished in 1966. The powers of the presidents were formalised into clear rules, which never happened to the general secretary. The post-1966 reforms also tried to strengthen the political powers of the Presidency by turning it to a political-executive organ (merging the powers of the Politburo and the Secretariat). In communist systems, the general secretary (most notably Stalin) successfully bypassed the politburo, the highest political organ, by dominating the secretariat, the highest executive organ. I will clarify.
      • As written above, communist politics is de-institutionalised. No clear formal rules on the remit of the general secretary exists.
  • Done On the "Institutional history of the highest-standing office" table, probably would be easier to read if you merged the two "1st Congress" cells.
  • Done It might be good to add a sentence or two about what led to the foundation of the party with the SSDP and all.
    • Good point!
  • Done What was the seat before the Ušće Towers? Also, the towers don't seem to be cited or mentioned anywhere in the text.
    • I will try to find info on this!
  • Done This is a pretty minor gripe, but the text in "Institutional history" are in big blocks that are a bit hard to scan. Maybe break it up into slightly smaller paragraphs and add an image if there's any applicable ones?
    • Will do.

@TheUzbek: That's my bit. Sorry if any of this seems too nitpicky - feel free to reject or ask for clarification on anything! Generalissima (talk) (it/she)

@Generalissima: You made great comments, and I will try to address all you're comments by Friday or Saturday :) Thanks for taking the time to review the list! --TheUzbek (talk) 09:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheUzbek: Things look great so far, though I wanted to check if you're done with your fixes or not. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Generalissima: I have now responded to all you're comments; what do you think? :) --TheUzbek (talk) 11:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of accolades received by Hidden Figures

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Nominator(s): Sgubaldo (talk) 21:07, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hidden Figures follows Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan and Mary Jackson during their time at NASA. This list has the same style as my other FLs. The Across the Spider-Verse nomination has picked up two supports, so I am adding a second one. Sgubaldo (talk) 21:07, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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Support from Crisco

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Image review
File:"Hidden Figures" Film Celebration (NHQ201612100023).jpg - Correctly labelled as PD; ALT text is detailed and grammatical
Prose
Fixed the spelling, @Crisco 1492. I don't think {{inflation}} is necessary here. Sgubaldo (talk) 15:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Great work! Chompy Ace 12:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of the 2004 Pacific hurricane season

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Nominator(s): Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 20:15, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My fascination with Wikipedia's hurricane season timelines began when I was very young. Around the time I first started reading Wikipedia, I came across the timeline of the 2004 Pacific hurricane season, and it stuck out to me due in part to a humorous narrative tidbit regarding Hurricane Isis. Though I now realize such writing isn't appropriate for an encyclopedia (indeed, this portion was rephrased soon after I found it), I loved how the timeline presented a chronology of the season. As for the season itself, it was remarkably low on both activity and impacts. No systems made landfall above tropical depression strength nor caused any known fatalities, though a few systems did cause minor effects.

I attempted to push this timeline through FLC in late 2010, but was unsuccessful. Over the past few months, I have rewritten it to the standard of the timeline FLs I've helped promote this year (see Timeline of the 1995 Pacific hurricane season and Timeline of the 2011 Pacific hurricane season for the two most recent examples), and I believe it is ready for a second crack at the bronze star. Personally, I would love if my 10th featured list could not only be one that I had previously tried to promote, but also one that holds some nostalgic value for me. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 20:15, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Generalissima

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@Dylan620: Since I want to do my part in making FLCs pass quicker, I'll review each part here.

Images: All images are correctly licensed (PD) and fitting for the article. All good there.

Prose: Lede is solid. You wikilink atmospheric stability, but I think "air mass" is the more important one, since you can kind of infer what stability means there if you know what an air mass is (I didn't - not a meterology person, lol.) Formatting looks solidly in line with your previous FLs in this area. I don't see anything to remark on in the timeline itself. (Side note: amazed we don't have an article on the concept of a major hurricane beyond just the scale!)

Source: Everything is cited properly, and the sources are well-formatted. Things are mostly cited to the NHC and NOAA. I checked these sources and found nothing out of place:

  • Avila et al., 2005
  • "Huracán "Javier" Acecha a la Costa Pacífica de México"
  • Avila, Tropical Cyclone Report (though this one should have the date, 2004, added to the cite)
  • Beven, Tropical Cyclone Report (ditto on the date)
  • Pasch is missing the date too. Just double check all the cyclone reports and make sure they have dates! That's all that seems off to me. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks for the thorough review, Generalissima – everything should be resolved now! I wikilinked air mass and de-linked atmospheric stability to avoid falling afoul of WP:SEAOFBLUE. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 23:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea - Support on both counts. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:17, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Inkigayo Chart winners (2020)

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Nominator(s): -- EN-Jungwon 12:36, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After a short break I am back at FLC with another Inkigayo list. This is the sixth list of this series that I am nominating for FL. As always, the format is similar to the previous list that have been promoted to FL in this series. -- EN-Jungwon 12:36, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • "A methodology used since February 3, 2019." - this is not a complete sentence. The simplest fix would be to append it to the previous sentence.
  • "Eleven songs have collected trophies for three weeks" => "Eleven songs collected trophies for three weeks"
  • "formed through the third season of Produce 101" - TV show title should be in italics
  • "gained their first number one Inkigayo" => "gained their first Inkigayo number one"
  • "Five soloist won" => "Five soloists won"
  • "The single went on to rank number one for three consecutive weeks and achieved a triple crown" - earlier you had capital letters on Triple Crown
  • "The former single accumulated 10,627 points on the March 8 broadcast " - you can't say "the former" when you listed three items
  • "rank number one for six weeks in a row - a first time record on the chart" - I think "rank number one for six weeks in a row, the first time this had occurred" reads more elegantly
  • That's what I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:29, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude, all done. Thanks for the review. -- EN-Jungwon 08:20, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Staraction

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  • "a methodology which had been used since February 3, 2019" -> "a method that had been used since February 3, 2019" or "a method that had been in use since February 3, 2019" potentially? "that" sounds better to me but I'm not entirely sure why(?), methodology -> method since there's only one method? Not entirely sure on these changes; let me know what you think.
  • Per MOS:OXFORD, stay consistent with the Oxford comma; I'd suggest "In 2020, the show was hosted by Monsta X member Lee Min-hyuk, NCT member Jaehyun and April member Lee Na-eun" -> "In 2020, the show was hosted by Monsta X member Lee Min-hyuk, NCT member Jaehyun, and April member Lee Na-eun", since the list of songs in the second paragraph would probably be harder to read without the additional commas
  • "On the February 23 broadcast "Late Night" by Noel helped..." -> "On the February 23 broadcast, Noel's "Late Night" helped..."
  • "BTS ranked three singles at number one on the chart in 2020 achieved with "On", "Dynamite" and "Life Goes On"" -> "BTS ranked three singles at number one on the chart in 2020, with "On", "Dynamite" and "Life Goes On""
  • "Their single "On" went on to accumulate 10,627 points on the March 8 broadcast making it the single with the highest points of the year" -> "Their single "On" went on to accumulate 10,627 points on the March 8 broadcast, making it the single with the highest points of the year"
  • "...Blackpink also had three number one singles in 2020; "How You Like That", "Ice Cream" and "Lovesick Girls"" -> "Blackpink also had three number one singles in 2020: "How You Like That", "Ice Cream" and "Lovesick Girls""
  • "Twice had two number one singles in 2020 achieved with "More & More" and "I Can't Stop Me"" -> "Twice had two number one singles in 2020, achieved with "More & More" and "I Can't Stop Me"."

Images:

Thanks for your work, @EN-Jungwon; please ping me after you review these suggestions, and let me know if you disagree with any of them! Staraction (talk | contribs) 23:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All images licensed properly - thank you to reviewer Queen of Hearts! Staraction (talk | contribs) 01:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Mingxing films

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Nominator(s):  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:09, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets all of the criteria. Mingxing was something of a big deal in Republican Shanghai, and this list provides readers with a list of their film productions as well as the necessary context to follow the evolution of its filmic output. I'm a bit rusty on tables, but I believe that it meets all accessibility guidelines.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:09, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Wolverine

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Here are my comments:

  • The Mingxing Film Company, based in Shanghai, the Republic of China, released 174 narrative films between its establishment in 1922 and 1938, the year after its closure. I think this can better be phrased. Perhaps you should say something like "The Mingxing Film Company was an entertainment company that was based in Shanghai, the Republic of China (in what is now China) between 1922 and 1938. The company released 174 narrative films" or something like that. The last part of the sentence also makes no sense to me; did the company close its doors in 1937 or 1938?
    • Rephrased to "Mingxing was a film production company based in Shanghai, the Republic of China. It released 174 narrative films between its establishment in 1922 and 1938, the year after it closed in the face of the Second Sino-Japanese War." The company's year of disestablishment was 1937; however, its film productions did continue to be released into the following year.
    • As for the years: Per the source, "On 7 July 1937 the full-scale Sino-Japanese war broke out. A month later Shanghai was caught in war and fell into the hands of the Japanese imperial army after a fierce three-month battle, leaving the International Settlement and the French Concession unoccupied until December 1941. Located in the city’s Chinese sector, Mingxing’s new business premises were occupied by the Japanese and used as barracks following the fall of the district. The company virtually ceased operating from then on.166 Nominally it still existed, and traces of its nominal existence were left. After an initial period of war-time chaos, the spring of 1938 saw renewed popular passion for entertainment as the city gradually settled in the new environment. Four Mingxing films produced immediately prior to the war appeared on the screen". In short, Mingxing closed its doors, but the films themselves still had the opportunity to be distributed. The literature tends to use the 1937 date as the date of disestablishment. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:39, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mingxing's fortunes changed I'm not too sure about "fortunes"
  • and was later distributed throughout China Is this not the Republic of China?
  • following the success of Tianyi's Heroine Li Feifei (1925), wuxia (martial arts) films. Following their success, what happened?
  • This expanded to include leftist cinema following the arrival of screenwriters such as Qian Xingcun and Xia Yan, working under pseudonyms, in the 1930s. Not sure what "this" implies and an explanation or a link to "leftist cinema" would be helpful
  • Rephrased to "The company's productions expanded to include leftist cinema following the arrival of screenwriters such as Qian Xingcun and Xia Yan, working under pseudonyms, in the 1930s." I'll make a footnote, because apparently we don't have an article on leftist cinema. In brief, though, it was stories produced by communists with explicitly pro-proletarian themes. Given that the ruling Kuomintang was actively hunting communists... it took gumption. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:39, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's unnecessary space between the lead and the first section

And that's my lot. Great article, not too much for me to complain about, and if you do have the time I'd really appreciate a review of my nomination here. Thanks, Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 06:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support This looks fine now; thanks for addressing my concerns. Also, please do check out the replies in my nom. Thanks, Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 11:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • Six separate paragraphs for the lead seems a lot, could it be re-organised into fewer?
  • A lot of the last paragraph of the lead seems unnecessary. We don't normally have things in articles like "This list is divided into two tables, one for the Mingxing's silent films and one for its sound films." because the headings make that clear. I would create a L2 heading "List of films" (with the existing headings changed to L3) and have immediately under it just this: "Each table is sorted by release date by default. Titles are given in English-language translations as well as traditional and simplified Chinese. The names of directors are rendered using the Chinese naming scheme wherein the surname precedes the given name. The list only counts fictional films produced by the company and does not include films from other genres, such as actualities."
  • Titles starting with "A" or "The" should sort based on the next word in the title
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:35, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

30th Annual South African Music Awards

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Nominator(s): dxneo (talk) 11:28, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 30th Annual South African Music Awards celebrated the best albums, songs, and music videos. Tyla was the biggest winner of the event. Hosted by Minnie Dlamini, it featured performers from the likes of Nasty C. Every winner was awarded a prize fund for that specific award. Special pings for peer reviewers, PSA and Medxvo. dxneo (talk) 11:28, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Medxvo

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Most of my concerns were previously addressed during the PR, but I want to add some comments

  • Citation 1 can probably be placed just once at the end of the first paragraph of the background section since it supports all of the preceding information—WP:CONSECUTIVECITE, WP:REPCITE
  • Same issue for the last sentence of the third paragraph
  • Same issue for the first two sentences of the presenters section
  • Same issue for the last two sentences of the second paragraph of the reaction section
  • "highlighted in bold were necessary" - "where necessary"?
  • The RiSA abbreviation can be removed from the lead since it wasn't mentioned again there
  • Why are the performances section tables not sortable and why are the presenters not even listed in a table?
  • Most Streamed Song of the Year seems to be presented by CAPASSO
  • The Mthandeni SK and Nyovest controversy can have its own paragraph instead of being separated between the first two paragraph of the reaction section

Medxvo (talk) 11:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All done. As for tabulating the presenters, I just didn't think it would look good since they presented awards and other presenters. dxneo (talk) 12:53, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess the first, third, and fourth issues are still there. Would you like me to explain further or did you forget to fix them? Also please see Help:Sortable tables#Background colors in sortable headers to fix the sortable tables with a background color issue (just use "background-color" instead of "background"). I also just noticed that most of the FLs of the award shows have the winners and nominees section placed before the performances/presenters sections. Why is it not like this here? Medxvo (talk) 13:26, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
must've missed them opps. All good now.
Question: Why must the table be sortable when there's no rowspans?
  • I put the presenter and performances before the awards and nominations because during the show we saw the presenters and performances before the awards haha and I was referencing BET Awards 2024. Should I change it?
dxneo (talk) 14:00, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think the sortable tables are only used when there are rowspans? It just helps the users to navigate the data, see Help:Sortable tables#Using sortable tables, and also 96th Academy Awards#Presenters and performers from a 2024 featured list for a similar example, which has the sortable table.
  • 2024 BET Awards isn't a FL, see Wikipedia:Featured lists#Awards for FL references, I'm pretty sure all of them have the winners/nominees placed before the presenters/performances. I also think that the SAMAs performances were between the awards during the show not before them, no? The show even ended with the "Umlilo" and "Manzi Nte" performances :)
Medxvo (talk) 14:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done, I moved the section and sorted the table. SAMA 30 opened with performances from Ishmael, Thebe, Skwatta Kamp and so on, before they even introduced the presenters. I watched the whole show live. Anything you'd like to add? dxneo (talk) 15:30, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Best of luck! Medxvo (talk) 15:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - pass

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I have made a source review and some spotchecks during the PR, but also some comments

  • "Entries for nomination consideration were open from 1 March 2024 to 14 April" - the source says 15 April
  • The source says that the cash prize for Album of the Year is 25 000 ZAR not 20 000 ZAR

Everything else seems fine to me. Medxvo (talk) 11:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Med, you the best. I like how you also noticed the inaccuracies on Prizes and entry dates. dxneo (talk) 12:54, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

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  • Unfortunately, the conjoined tables (everything in Winners and nominees) are pretty problematic from an accessibility perspective. Fundamentally the issue is that they are presented like a table of data, but it's actually just boxes stuck together. You can't use pseudo-header rows like that (MOS:COLHEAD), but even if you make every "row" its own table, the two columns aren't really related, it's just that you wanted to save space. Fortunately, there's a way to do exactly what you're trying to do (MOS:LTAB), and it's not hard to fix. See the code in e.g. 54th Academy Awards - add role="presentation" before the class="wikitable" to let screen-reader software know that it's not a data table, just a layout/presentation scheme, and then instead of columns and rows, you just use the {{Award category}} template, or else make each box a div yourself if that seems better to you. See the documentation at the Award category template for instructions on how to convert a psuedo-table to use that template.
  • I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. This is not a full review, and does not result in a support vote. --PresN 02:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Never done this before. So far I have only used {{Award category}} on the Top 5 categories, can you please verify if I'm in the right direction before I move on. dxneo (talk) 09:54, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    All done. dxneo (talk) 10:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Looks good! I added in screen-reader-only table captions, but that's minor and I hadn't mentioned it. --PresN 19:18, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elias

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Hi! Appreciate the ping. Thanks for reminding me about this FLC; onwiki priorities went all over the place because of usual irl reasons... anyway. expect a response by the end of the week :) Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 06:20, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello PSA, it's been almost 2 weeks now. Just a follow up. dxneo (talk) 10:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


A handful of drive-by comments

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  • I don't think we need two different photos of Tyla right next to each other
Fixed. dxneo (talk) 17:07, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just to confirm, although the category is called (for example) "Female Artist of the Year", it is awarded not to the artist generically, but to a specific recording by the artist////?
Honestly, this has always been something I never quite understood. I mean, it's Female Artist of the Year, I think it's awarded to both. dxneo (talk) 17:07, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • What's the difference (apart from one letter ) between "Best Pop Album" and "Beste Pop Album"?
Haha, Best is English and Beste is Afrikaans. dxneo (talk) 17:07, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm surprised that you said "how come" haha. There are just some things that do not have answers to, but there's Best Contemporary Faith Music Album, Best Adult Contemporary Album (English), and Best African Adult Contemporary Album (Presented by Ikwekwezi FM). Very few are in Afrikaans I guess. dxneo (talk) 17:07, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More comments

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  • "Tyla won the most awards, receiving four awards." => "Tyla won the most awards, receiving four." (avoid repeating "award")
  • "Kabza de Small received three awards alongside Mthunzi." => "Kabza de Small and Mthunzi received three awards."
  • "and R4,600.00 ($311.23) for non-members including value-added tax per entry for all categories" => "and for non-members it was R4,600.00 ($311.23) including value-added tax per entry for all categories"
  • "Tyla emerged as the most awarded artist with four accolades; trailing behind was Kabza de Small and Mthunzi with three" => "Tyla emerged as the most awarded artist with four accolades, ahead of Kabza de Small and Mthunzi with three" ("trailing behind" sounds a bit judgmental)
  • "Below is the list of winners highlighted in bold where necessary." => "In the list below, winners are highlighted in bold where necessary."
  • In the Main show performances tables, some songs are centred and others are not
  • "were in attendance of the main event" => "were in attendance at the main event"
  • "Tyla's "Water" lost Record of the Year award" => "Tyla's "Water" lost the Record of the Year award"
  • First two tiny paragraphs under "Reaction" should be merged
  • "he should've reached out privately" => "he should have reached out privately" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you Chris, one thing I did not understand is that "some songs are centred and others are not." So, I don't really know what to fix since I don't see anything wrong, because I did not use {{center}}. Any suggestion on how I can fix this? dxneo (talk) 11:19, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    On my screen at least, the whole column is centred with the exception of some rows with use {{ubl}} (don't know what that is), which seems to have the effect of over-riding the default alignment of the column and making them left-aligned -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    On my screen they were and they still are all centered. I replaced {{ubl}} with <br/>. How does it look now? dxneo (talk) 19:20, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:03, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of music released by Moldovan artists that has charted in major music markets

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Nominator(s): Cartoon network freak (talk) 14:46, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it offers a well-written and well-sourced overview over the most successful Moldovan music released. It is the second list of its kind here on Wikipedia after the FL List of music released by Romanian artists that has charted in major music markets. I am happy for any comment. Greets, Cartoon network freak (talk) 14:46, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • "was group O-Zone." => "was the group O-Zone."
  • "was the first song performed in native Romanian" => "was the first song performed in Romanian"
  • "and reaching number 72 in Japan and number 16 on the US Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart." - not to be biased towards my native UK, but I would think that getting to number 3 in the UK is a far more noteworthy achievement than either of these
I agree. I changed the sentence to include the UK peak instead of the other charts.
  • "reaching numbers eight, 19 and 16, respectively." => "reaching numbers 8, 19 and 16, respectively."
Numbers below 10 should be written out per MOS:NUMERAL.
....which also says "Comparable values near one another should be all spelled out or all in figures" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: You are right! I did not see that before. Fixed it now. Anything else? Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: Hi there and thank you very much for your review. I have implemented your feedback and left some comments. Let me know if you support this nomination. Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:41, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IanTEB (Comments + Source Review)

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For transparency, I've taken use of Google Translate for most foreign-language sources where needed.

  • The image of Dan Balan should have an alt text. For its caption, I would remove the second use of "Moldovan" before naming his group, since (at least I would) assume the band is from the same country as the member.
Added alt text and fixed nationality.
  • notably reaching number 44 on the UK singles chart - notably according to whom? I think the word could just be cut
Removed.
  • was a top ten hit and was awarded certifications in the majority of music markets - second 'was' could be removed. For 'majority of music markets', do you mean major music markets?
reworded to "and awarded certifications in multiple major music markets" to be more concise
  • There are instances of oxford commas missing. If the article is not written in American English, add {{Use British English|date=December 2024}} (or a suitable alternative) to the top of the article to discourage users from changing this.
Added the British English template
  • Source [11] (CNN) renders an error for me, but I don't have any issue with the archive. Change the url-status to dead, unless this is a regional issue.
Url is dead, adjusted that
  • I believe "Love Me… Love Me…" should be reformatted to "Love Me... Love Me..."
Done
  • I can't find the French chart position for "Hey Mamma"
Thank you for pointing this out. It was a peak not on the main chart, but on the downloads chart. Adjusted that.
  • In regards to [18] (RIAJ), the drop-down menu only goes back to 2006 for me.
Adjusted.
  • For me, the UK Charts says that "Hey Mamma" also charted at 51 on the main chart. It also says "Trenulețul" reached 49 and that "Soarele și luna" reached 66.
The peak you are finding is on the UK Singles Sales Chart, which is not the same as the main UK singles chart. All these songs have also charted on the UK Singles Downloads Chart, which is more notable and hence why it is included in the article.
  • [24] (Billboard) gives me a digital songs chart history instead of Bubbling Under 100.
Added instructions on how to retrieve the peak.
  • Non-archive link for [29] (RIAA) returns a 404 page. Change the url-status to dead, unless it is a regional issue
This seems to be a regional issue only, since it works for me.
  • There are no instructions for how to find the relevant information in [31] (RIAJ)
Adjusted.
  • Checked: [3], [4], [5], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [35], [14], [15], [32], [16], [17], [19], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [27], [28], [30], [33], [34],
Pinging Cartoon network freak for follow up in case they moved this review. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hey man im josh: Hi there and many thank for your throrough review, it is really appreciated. Apologies for the late reply; I began working on your comments, but I only now finished them because of the holidays :) I think I have solved everything. Let me know if there is anything more and if you support. Many thanks; Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just to be clear @Cartoon network freak, this review was performed by @IanTEB. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@IanTEB: Whoops, in this case I thank you :) Greets; Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cartoon network freak: All issues seems to have been fixed up. Very interesting list. Support for prose and verifiability. IanTEB (talk) 18:46, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of World Heritage Sites in Kazakhstan

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Nominator(s): Tone 14:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kazakhstan has 6 WHS and 13 sites on the tentative list. Standard style. It seems that now the standard minimum length is 8 items in total, and I am still keeping personal limit to at least 3 sites on the main list. Tone 14:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • "TThree sites are transnational" - typo
  • "Even if the mausoleum remains partially unfinished," => "Although the mausoleum remains partially unfinished,"
  • "Silk Road is an ancient network of trade routes" => "The Silk Road is an ancient network of trade routes"
  • "started forming in the 2nd century BCE" - earlier you just used "BC"
  • "represents different stages of history of Turkic peoples" => "represents different stages of the history of the Turkic peoples"
  • "as and later the centre of the Kazakh khans ." - don't think that "as" should be there, also there's a random space before the full stop
  • "The mosques are named after the local Sufi saints are popular pilgrimage sites" - this doesn't make sense. I think what you mean is "The mosques are named after the local Sufi saints and are popular pilgrimage sites"
  • "The archaeological excavations of the tombs, kurgans, uncovered" => "The archaeological excavations of the tombs, called kurgans, uncovered"
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:28, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    FIxed all, thanks :) Tone 12:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You've changed one item but not in the way I was expecting. Can I just check if "The mosques are named after the local Sufi saints and popular pilgrimage sites" is correct? Currently this wording indicates that some of the mosques are named after saints and some of the mosques are named after pilgrimage sites. I don't think this is what you mean, but maybe I am wrong....? I think what you mean is "The mosques are named after the local Sufi saints and are popular pilgrimage sites" (i.e. all the mosques are named after saints and the mosques are pilgrimage sites) - can you confirm.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:26, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oops, you are correct, added "are". Typo on my side. Tone 12:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of chief ministers from the Indian National Congress

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Nominator(s): 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 15:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the third nomination of this list. Please be informed that the list is extensive, and I have made every effort to address the issues raised in the previous nomination, including improvements in table formatting, an explanation of how state boundaries have changed and been renamed, and the inclusion of reliable references. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 15:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@25 Cents FC: I think the list is lovely. I only have a few proposals.
  1. "The party during the post-independence era has governed most of the states and union territories of India. It has the status of a "national party" in India." -----> "In the post-independence era, the party has governed most of India's states and union territories, and by extension, has the status of a "national party" in India."
  2. "As of 20 November 2024, INC is in power in the three states of Himachal Pradesh, Karnataka and Telangana." ------> "As of 20 November 2024, INC is in power in three states: Himachal Pradesh, Karnataka and Telangana."
  3. "In Tamil Nadu and Jharkhand it shares power with alliance partners Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam and Jharkhand Mukti Morcha respectively" ----> "In Tamil Nadu and Jharkhand, it shares power with alliance partners Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam and Jharkhand Mukti Morcha, respectively" ... Aren't you missing two commas?
  4. "A chief minister is the head of government of each of the twenty-eight states and of two union territories (Delhi and Puducherry). According to the Constitution of India, at the state level, the governor is de jure head, but de facto executive authority rests with the chief minister." ---> "According to the Constitution of India, at the state level, the governor is de jure head, but de facto executive authority rests with the chief minister. The chief minister is, therefore, considered the head of government in his jurisdiction."
  5. "While not a constitutional office, it seldom carries any specific powers" (that seems very logical, what about) ---> "Because the deputy Chief Minister is not a constitutional office, the amount of powers the officeholder has is in large part influenced by the Chief Minister."
  6. "The chief minister's term is usually for a maximum of five years with the confidence of the assembly" ----> "The chief minister's term, if he has the assembly's confidence, is normally limited to five years."
  7. Could you write somewhere that the list is organised "according to states and union territories"? For a person who knows nothing about Indian politics, I was first very unaware of what "Andhra Pradesh" was. It may sound stupid, but it helps the reader.

List of accolades received by Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse

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Nominator(s): Sgubaldo (talk) 18:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After significantly reworking List of accolades received by Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse to ensure it was still FL-quality, I thought it appropriate to get the sequel's list promoted. Follows the usual style. Sgubaldo (talk) 18:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Query

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List of Chivas USA managers

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Nominator(s): Brindille1 (talk) 05:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm nominating this list for FL, continuing my streak of Major League Soccer-related lists. This one covers managers for the defunct Chivas USA, which had an unbelievable nine managers across ten seasons. This list follows the same format as List of New England Revolution seasons, with a written summary of the managerial history as well as the list of managers with results. Brindille1 (talk) 05:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • "competed in Major League Soccer (MLS) from 2005 until it folded after the 2014 season" - this wording could be interpreted as meaning that Major League Soccer folded in 2014. Suggest rewording to "competed in Major League Soccer (MLS) from 2005 until 2014, after which the team folded"
  • "Chivas USA introduced their introductory" - can you change one of these words so the language is less repetitive?
  • "at a press-conference on September 23, 2004" - there is no hyphen in "press conference"
  • "and with the team at a 1-8-1 record, " => "and, with the team at a 1-8-1 record, "
  • can you clarify within the article what a "1-8-1 record" is? To me, as a European, it means one win, eight draws, and one defeat, but it appears that in America it means one win, one draw and eight defeats
  • "he became team's sporting director" => "he became the team's sporting director"
  • There's an issue with the ref template after "losing in the first round each time"
  • "Before hiring their next coach, both Shawn Hunter (the chief executive) and Stephen Hamilton (the vice president of soccer operations) departed the club" - Hunter and Hamilton left the club but then hired its next coach? That doesn't make sense. I think the initial clause needs changing, as presumably the subject of that clause is the club.....
  • "with the team in last in the Western Conference" => "with the team in last place in the Western Conference"
  • "a lawsuit against the club alleging discrimination for not being Latino." => "a lawsuit against the club alleging that they were discriminated against for not being Latino."
  • "Sanchez Sola not always followed" - as this is apparently a direct quote, can I just confirm that the statement contained this grammatical error?
  • Wilmer Cabrera image caption needs a full stop.
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 05:53, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the feedback @ChrisTheDude. I've fixed each of those points. Brindille1 (talk) 01:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Apologies if I duplicate anything from ChrisTheDude above.

  • There needs to be a comma after Carson, California
  • Disastrous in the heading seems a little too much editorializing. Just "Debut season"
  • All the records need to have en dashes (i.e. 1-8-1 should be 1–8–1) I would recommend {{Win-loss record}} actually
  • end of the season, he announced comma isn't needed
  • within a month, but was hired as the manager comma isn't needed
  • national team, and stepped down comma isn't needed
  • one season, and was fired comma isn't needed
  • filed a lawsuit against the club alleging that they were for not being Latino. they were what? "Fired"?
  • as well as by Chivas USA." quote mark goes before the period
  • to a 3-6-12 record, and on comma isn't needed
  • its last match, and it ceased operations the next day --> its last match, ceasing operations the next day
  • Match results contain all league games as well as MLS playoff matches. "as well as" should just be "and"
  • The use of {{Abbr}} for "Win%" isn't correct. I think you are shooitng for a footnote here, which can be done using {{sfn}} and {{Notelist}}

That's all I got Brindille1. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback, @Gonzo fan2007. I've addressed each of the items, except for "quote mark goes before the period"- the current text is correct based on my reading of MOS:QUOTEPUNCT Brindille1 (talk) 01:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of emperors of the Ming dynasty

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Nominator(s): Min968 (talk) 06:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about list of emperors of the Ming dynasty. I am nominating this for featured list status because I believe it meets all the FL criteria and it is an important part of the series of articles on the topic of the Ming dynasty that I am currently improving. Min968 (talk) 06:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Surely this should be a WP:Featured list candidate rather than a WP:Featured article candidate? TompaDompa (talk) 06:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I have fixed it. Min968 (talk) 08:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Toadspike

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Staking out a spot here, if I haven't responded within a week please ping me. Toadspike [Talk] 19:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • In the late 1620s, a peasant uprising erupted in northern China – link to Late Ming peasant rebellions.
  • A total of sixteen emperors ruled over China proper for 276 years. During their reign, China experienced a long period of economic growth and political stability. Specify that this refers to the Ming dynasty. (Philosophical note: I believe paragraphs and most sentences in the lead should be able to stand on their own, especially since search engine previews tend to take them out of context, so I think making them technically correct is important.)
  • continued to rule over the south of the country – I would prefer "continued to rule over southern China". The definition of country is very vague. It's okay that you use the phrase again later in the paragraph.
  • To defeat the rebels, the government troops in the north invited the Manchu-led Eight Banner armies of the Qing dynasty to come to the Central Plains. The Manchus then occupied northern China in the same year. "the government troops in the north" – clarify. I think this is a summary of the Battle of Shanhai Pass that could be misleading. Wu Sangui, for better or worse, is seen as a rogue general. The current wording suggests that the Ming government somehow condoned his decision. The use of "invited" is also probably inaccurate, phrasing using "coerced" is probably better. "Eight Banner armies" could be shortened to "Eight Banners", though this is not obligatory. Northern China should be linked. I prefer "that same year" over "in the same year".
  • a similar complex in Nanjing should link to Ming Palace.
  • according to the Hongwu Emperor's decision is vague and begs the question "which decision?" I think there's a name for it, it's been a while since I've read about this period but he did set down some kind of constitution/code of conduct for future emperors. Maybe it's the Great Ming Code I'm thinking of.
  • the successor to the throne was always the eldest son of the emperor and empress, or his heir if he had none, followed by younger sons of the empress. I'm not sure what you mean by "his heir if he had none". Could you clarify this, please? Does it mean that if the eldest son had a son and died, that grandson would be the successor? Also, something in this section should link to or be replaced with Taizi – probably the first use of "successor" or "heir".
@Toadspike I have removed some content from the article. In the near future, it may be included in another more suitable article or a new article specifically about the Ming emperors. Min968 (talk) 04:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General point: The lead seems pretty long to me. Some of the content (e.g. "Court and family", "Burial traditions") seems much more suited for the main Emperor of China article or a new Ming emperors article. I don't mind much for now, but in the long run that would be the best move.

More comments as I re-read:

  • I don't think the Hongguang Emperor should be listed under "first emperor" in the infobox. (Will explain my reasons if necessary.)
    • I'm not sure if the start of the southern Ming should be in the infobox either, but I'm not super opposed to it. I agree that the last southern Ming emperor and end date of the southern Ming should be included.
  • In the lead, I would put the years for the Wanli Emperor immediately after the words "Wanli Emperor", rather than at the end of the sentence.
  • "China experienced a long period of economic growth and political stability" might be generally true, but it's not like there was always economic growth and political stability. Could you reword this a little? Perhaps add a qualifying term like "generally" or "broadly". The dynastic collapse and Tumu Crisis are obvious exceptions to "political stability", and one could also argue that the Wanli reign was one long political crisis.
  • "The emperor of the Ming dynasty, as well as the emperors during the imperial era of China (221 BC – 1912), was known as the "Son of Heaven"" This sentence has a grammar issue (I believe the technical term is subject verb agreement). However, simply switching to "The emperors" and "were known as" would still leave a clunky sentence. And it also misses the fact that Zhou emperors were also called "son of heaven" (天子), even though they were not "emperors" (皇帝) I suggest rewording along the lines of "Following a practice established in the Zhou dynasty [perhaps earlier, you'd have to fact-check this], Ming emperors were known as the "Son of Heaven" (lang-zh template here)."
  • I see a "citation needed" tag in an image caption.
Drive-by comment
I suggest referring to the List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty for formatting, as it recently became and FL itself and is, to me, easier to understand than this list. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 00:27, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Min968, I second what SilverTiger12 said. The formatting should generally match previous FLs unless there is some need to be different. Seeing as List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty is a FL and looks really good, I would convert to that format. Please ping me when you have responded and made the changes, and I will do a full review. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Currently, I have made quite a few revisions not only based on the List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty but also of the Song dynasty and of the Han dynasty. Min968 (talk) 17:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonzo fan2007 @SilverTiger12 @Toadspike Min968 (talk) 17:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The list currently lacks column and row scopes, which are necessary for accessibility. See PresN's standard comment here for some advice. Also pinging AirshipJungleman29 in case they're interested in looking this over, as they recently has a related successful nomination at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty/archive1 (though I suspect they may not be interested as this isn't Mongol Empire related). Hey man im josh (talk) 15:00, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have a look, although I'm also interested in why List of emperors of the Ming dynasty by length of reign is a separate article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29 In my opinion, cramming all of the information into one article will make it too long and confuse the reader about the main content. It may also dilute the information. Min968 (talk) 05:48, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added. Min968 (talk) 05:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Airship

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  • The lead outlines the scope of the article, saying that is about the Ming dynasty who ruled between 1368 and 1644. The lists themselves however also include rulers of the Southern Ming, who are not even mentioned in the lead. This discrepancy needs to be resolved, either by removing the southern Ming rulers or by adjusting the lead section.
  • "ruled over the whole of China proper spanning 276 years" grammatically this means that China proper spans 276 years, when you presumably meant their rule. That said, seeing as we already have the timeframe, why is the number of years needed?
  • "During their reign, China experienced a long period of economic growth and political stability." seems far too straightforward a statement for the first paragraph of the lead, see MOS:BEGIN
  • "Below is a complete list of the emperors of the Ming dynasty, including their personal, temple, posthumous, and era names." This should not be present, see MOS:THISISALIST.
  • "The emperor of the Ming dynasty, as well as the emperors during the imperial era of China (221 BC–1912)" "as well as" is not correct, you're looking for "as part of" or similar.
  • Could I ask for a quotation of the source text from citation 5 (Baud-Berthier (2003), pp. 84–85.) that supports most of the third lead paragraph?
  • "The Ming emperors resided in the Forbidden City, a 72-hectare complex of palaces and buildings in Beijing. Prior to 1420, the emperors' residence was located in a similar complex in Nanjing." The second sentence disproves the first; you cannot say a statement about all "the Ming emperors" and then immediately contradict it.
  • I have tagged an image caption for needing a citation.
  • "and drove the Mongols out of China" this could use more elucidation for those who aren't familiar with who "the Mongols" are.
  • "As the dynasty progressed, the subsequent emperors lacked the decisiveness of their founder" a tautology with "progressed" and "subsequent", and the emperors themselves didn't have a founder—their dynasty did.
  • MOS:THISISALIST also applies to the line at the top of #Posthumously recognized individuals.
  • It is not immediately clear what the brackets for the Hongwu Emperors's late era name end date means—it is likely that non-specialists will not understand. Please try to simplify.
  • Row scopes are still missing.
  • Notes a, b, and c are too far important to the article to be footnotes. They should be dedicated prose in their own section.
  • I suspect that the confusion noted above by a couple of reviewers might arise from the excessive columns devoted to names and dates, the habit to bold two different names in each row, and the lack of explanation of who each ruler is. Do the posthumous and temple names really need their own columns, or can they be incorporated in with another column ike I did at List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty? That list and e.g. List of Roman emperors also contain a short summary of each ruler, which would greatly improve the ability of this article to communicate information.
  • Might be worth incorporating the "posthumously recognised emperors" in the main list with different shading to indicate their different status, if possible.

Please ping me when you feel you have addressed the above. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:20, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29 Done somewhat. Min968 (talk) 17:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since there seems to be some contention over the list's format I will add my strong preference for the one suggested by Airship. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 01:17, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just pinging @Min968 to follow up on this review. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aza24

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I see you too have enjoyed my citations on the list of Chinese monarchs page :) I'll plan to look at this in the next few days. First, some intial thoughts, some perhaps overlapping with Airship to some extent:

  • List of emperors of the Ming dynasty by length of reign seems like a needless split that would not survive afd. Surely your main list & timeline essentially covers its content?
  • You need to better define the scope of this list. I think you will find it easier to start the list with the Hongwu Emperor; the "earlier" people were basically obscure peasant family of his, of whom practically nothing is known; I'm not surprised the only source you could find was Zhang Tingyu, not really a good enough (recent enough) source, I might add. This is much different than the List of emperors of the Qing dynasty, where earlier rulers were full-fledged leaders in their own right, but even that list seperates the tables.
    • Think of it like this, a reader will look for the first entry in a "list of Ming dynasty emperors" to find the 'first Ming emperor', would it make more sense to say that's the Zhu Bailiu or the Hongwu Emperor is?
    • I would think all four could belong in a note next to Hongwu's name. Perhaps you could link the Chinese pages there so readers have something, i.e. Zhu Bailiu [zh] – Aza24 (talk) 08:55, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • That may be a little my fault Aza24; I advised merging a separate "posthumously recognised" table with the main one, but I agree that we've ended up with too much emphasis on them, and quite like your suggestion of putting them in a note next to Hongwu's name. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since this is a more detailed/focused list than the main list of Chinese monarchs, you can afford to include more detail. Specifically, the Life details for Xuande, Chenghua and Hongzhi, for example
  • I did not know Qian Haiyue exists but I'm glad he does! – Aza24 (talk) 08:55, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Men's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year

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Nominator(s): TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because following the successful promotions at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Football Academic All-America Team Members of the Year/archive2 in July and Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Women's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year/archive1 earlier today, I think this is a good candidate. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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That's all I got. Nice work TonyTheTiger! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominations for removal

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Bleach season 4

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Notified: Sephiroth BCR, WikiProject Anime and manga, WikiProject Television

This list is missing key sections (namely production and reception), has poor sourcing (too many primary sources or lower-quality sources), and overall fails to meet present-day expectations for season articles. See also the related FLRCs for seasons 1, 2, and 3. RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove. Not a list (no season article is a list article), not even close to GA status. Gonnym (talk) 13:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of South America hurricanes

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The template saying "factual accuracy may be compromised due to out-of-date information" has been there for over 2 years. Yilku1 (talk) 16:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delist An orange tag in place for that long has no place on a featured list. Departure– (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appy Awards

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Notified: The Rambling Man, Video games, Awards, Apps, Lists

Looking at when the was nominated, which was three days after the awards were presented, it definitely seemed like a second year of these were expected but that never happened. And looking at the sources used, most of them come from the Appy Awards website itself. Also don't believe that What Mobile is a reliable source. It just looks too barebones to really be called a Featured List with it just being two paragraphs and a table. GamerPro64 02:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Remove. I think it's possible that this is the best the article can ever be, which is commendable, but I also don't think every topic can qualify for featured status. I don't think this article qualifies for AFD, but the three secondary sources in Daily Telegraph, BBC, and What Mobile are all rather short and not particularly in-depth stories. A Google for "Appy Awards -wikipedia" does not turn up a lot of stuff that could be added, either. I don't think the secondary sourcing is strong enough here. SnowFire (talk) 05:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove Frankly, I'm not even sure this passes WP:SUSTAINED or WP:GNG in general. That it should not be featured is a foregone conclusion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove I don't think this award passes WP:GNG, since beyond the inaugural event which was itself barely covered by reliable sources, there has been no further significant coverage that indicates notability here (WP:SUSTAINED). I would probably nominate this article for AfD or for a merger to Carphone Warehouse after this FLRC closes. Either way I don't think there's enough material here to make a FL sadly. Fathoms Below (talk) 18:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This isn't notable, but otherwise keep. This fails SUSTAINED and should be merged to Carphone Warehouse (and thus automatically lose FL), but it is stupid to arbitrarily declare that a list is too "barebones" when it meets the criteria just fine and there is no room for expansion. charlotte 👸🎄 09:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • FLC3 includes "does not violate the content-forking guideline, does not largely duplicate material from another article, and could not reasonably be included as part of a related article," so I'd say that there's a valid concern here. More generally, some editors would look askance at backdoor removing featured status via merging the article, so having some sort of RFC-ish discussion somewhere is valid before taking action, and doing such a discussion at FLRC seems fine to me. (And to be clear, per my earlier !vote, I don't think the article necessarily "needs" to be merged to lose Featured status. Insufficient sourcing should be a problem for featured status anywhere.) SnowFire (talk) 20:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of municipalities in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania

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Notified: WikiProject Pennsylvania

I am nominating this as the data is 25 (!!!) years out of date, missing both the 2010 and 2020 census updates. It was one of the earlier featured lists but hasn't been taken care of for well over a decade. Mattximus (talk) 17:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • In addition to 25 year old data, there is also lots of unsourced sections, no alt text for images, a census designated place is added for some reason (unsourced), outdated wording ("The map shown below is clickable"), broken format in notes, just very far from featured standards. Mattximus (talk) 17:35, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have notified the original FLC nominator, Ruhrfisch (diff). RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the notification. Is there a model FL that we could look at for updates? Would updating to 2020 Census data be sufficient (or should the list have 2000, 2010, and 2020 data, and if so why not go back further in time)? Also, if we are making improvements, what time frame is there? - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:14, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just 2020 should be sufficient for this list. Any more and the table would be too wide. There is quite a bit more that just the new census data needed to get it up to standard, but I'm sure there should be sufficient time if someone is working on it. Mattximus (talk) 03:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have a link which I think should work as one reference for the 2020 US Census populations of all 52 incorporated divisions, as well as all 52 of their areas - see https://data.census.gov/profile?g=060XX00US4208102656. Or would you prefer links to each of the 52 individual 2020 US Census pages for each township, borough, and city for the population and 52 more individual links for each of the 52 areas (so 1 link or 104 links for references)? - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One link in header would be ideal. Usually the US Census includes a single document with all the counties on one page, but honestly that is minor and can be done later. I'm happy with the link you provided in the header. No need for 104 links. Mattximus (talk) 21:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Could someone look at my alt texts added so far and make sure that they are OK? I am also not sure what to use for alt text for the small locator maps for each municipality. I thought of just using "locator map" as the alt text - would that be OK? I have looked for a single document for the 2020 Census for Lycoming County, but have not been able to find it so far. I am compiling the populations and areas for all 52 of the municipalities, and will then edit them all in at once. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:47, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd probably say something to the effect of "<blank township> highlighted in red on a map of Lycoming County." Locator map is possibly fine as well, but I don't think it's particularly helpful if we had all of the images with the exact same alt text. Appreciate your effort and work on this @Ruhrfisch! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I did not add alt text to the 52 Lycoming County locator maps yet. I could also do something like "Blank Township highlighted in red in northwest corner of Lycoming County map", to give a sense of where the twp is. Although there are a lot of small munis in the center of the county, which would be harder to describe. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 06:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have added alt text to all 52 locator maps in the first table per Hey man im josh's suggestion above "NAME highlighted in red on a map of Lycoming County". I think this addresses all of the major problems identified in the lede and Municipalities section. - Ruhrfisch ><>°° 23:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Updates and Improvements

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I am starting a new section to keep track of edits made to update and improve the list.

List of counties in Maryland

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Notified: WikiProject Maryland, WikiProject U.S. counties, nominator is long-inactive

2007 promotion, fails FLCR 3b with several citation needed tags and an unsourced section. Also fails 5c; flag and seal should not be sortable and the former counties table does not have column and row headers. Talk page concerns went unanswered. charlotte 👸♥ 03:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed the table accessibility issues that you've pointed out.
Remaining problems:
  1. Sourcing issues.
  2. The lead map, and the flags and seal images in the table require alt text. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a few sources – couldn't address all of the "citation needed" tags, but it's a start. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added one more source but found nothing in reliable sources regarding the defunct counties. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 08:27, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe this is close to being resolved, which is the reason I haven't delisted it yet. Please do correct me if I'm wrong, as I don't want to let this unnecessarily linger. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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